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you're listening to Ira the inception

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Cheers

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see inside Eli

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welcome to centre of light radio with

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spiritual teacher intuitive musician

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composer and best-selling author of the

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Divine Principle anchoring heaven on

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earth your host Keith Anthony Blanchard

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welcome one welcome all yes Keith

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Anthony Blanchard here center of light

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radio center of the vine unfoldment and

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reinforcements and without fail I

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announced yet again strap in all the

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spiritual astral not as we launch for

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inner space I am really keyed up about

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august seventeenth why you may ask let

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me tell you swansea viswa yogi a god

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realized man is going to be on center of

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light radio / video we working out the

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details and all the particulars to do

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this as a live video streaming kind of

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thingy I had the blessed opportunity

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last year to meet Swansea and I don't

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know if any of you had the ever had the

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opportunity to be in the presence of a

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divine in loom and individual there is

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something to be I'm not gonna say said

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there's something to be felt it's a

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remembering of your own essence your own

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self and in so doing you feel the

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majesty the power the presence the

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absolute awareness there is such an

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amazing humility that takes place inside

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by his reflection you are able to touch

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the humility which is to me synonymous

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word for God they are such a powerful

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presence in that make sure you write

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that down I'm pretty sure the date is

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the 17th of August also make sure you

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visit the centre of light radio website

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you do that going by going to ww central

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light radio com lots of cool stuff there

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really check it out it's a really

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special looking site I took my time with

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it filled with Hubble images of space

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it's it's all my backgrounds for all my

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pages it's really cool look at but is

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yet there's powerful information if my

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life's work my creations that which

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gives me joy that's what

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that what makes me zing and buzz so my

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passion is into it so I'm sure you would

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receive much from it as well you can

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jump seat from there to go to Keith

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Anthony Blanchard to learn about my

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movie do what you love a passionate

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passionate living the movie is about

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your life empowering you with the tools

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that you need so you can go out into the

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world and be blissful and live your

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passion which you know is the reason you

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were born something you cannot deny you

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were here to be happy joyful blissful

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peaceful you do that by going to do what

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you love the movie com check it out to

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five dollar rent made by blue cast

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productions out of New York it was it

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was a trip it was a lot a lot of fun we

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had no script and yet everything just

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check it out let's see my notes here I

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kind of got to the microphone just a

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little late um let's see how to call

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into the show live to ask a question or

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say something say hi of myself or my

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guest today mr. John Robinson dr. John

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Robinson call eight eight eight nine 19

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to 35 5 88 89 19 to 35 5 remember for

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to center of light radio business today

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my guest is dr. john c Robison and we

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will be will be designed falling all

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over my tongue that day we will be

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discussing the new aging and a

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conversation with this gentleman

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last year or so and boy what a ride here

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plus I he helped me feel good about

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dying I'm not necessarily looking for it

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right now but actually you lit a spark

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under my ass and I somewhat really

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looking forward to it versus in my past

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putting it off in small I can't jhansi

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Robinson PhD and all these other

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credentials dmin would have all has said

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yes as a clinical psychologist the

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second doctorate in ministry and

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ordained interfaith minister the author

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of eight books on the interface on

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along with numerous articles books book

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chapters and guest blogs and last but

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not least an aging boomer with grown

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children and a gaggle of grand are we

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setting the tone for this our voyage for

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sure is great his professional work

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archetypal revelations of myth and fairy

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tale a full-time writer now good for you

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bro his interest has turned to the

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potential of the new aging and the list

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goes on but we're just going to get it

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out of him instead of reading what John

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has to say welcome to the center of

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Keith thank you so much for having me

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back I love the way you introduce this

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life and how the whole purpose of life

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blissful and joyous and that's what

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secrets of aging are about it is the

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most profound stage of human development

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really final and biggest chance to get

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illumined to be enlightened and it's

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amazing how you use the word secret of

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aging it's really no secret it's just

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either foremost boomers for both most

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depressing or too far away to even want

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especially boomers who think that can

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and exercise and and so am surgeries and

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so forth but the truth is that if you

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just take the time to to experience it

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inside of it is an entirely new

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revelation of life what life's for

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something I've been wanting to ask you

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since I found you again to get you on

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this brand new platform for me inception

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radio networks which I absolutely love a

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look forward to getting in this chair

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interviewing phenomenal people who walk

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the talk like yourself jhansi Robinson

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question I've been wanting to ask you

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since I booked you a month ago it came

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to me very strongly yet again today

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because when I asked you in the last

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interview the question was and your

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answer was just really really the one I

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was hoping for but as we move closer to

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know that every day we're getting closer

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even closer and every year and so the

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passing I would think get a little

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nearer just but in so doing is there an

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equally an equal ratio reciprocal

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grace one feels about their death the

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closer they get to their death yes I

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important and at 69 I'm already begin to

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feel it and append particularly when

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number of brushes with various diagnosis

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or surgeries that take your right to the

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edge or could take you to the edge your

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consciousness begins to change you begin

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to have a I think the unconscious and

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dye your body knows how to dye it only

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starting so when you're 25 or 30 you

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know your light years away from

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understanding that but when you're in

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your seventies you know and you relax

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into the process of aging you begin to

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realize that this like a cautious like

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one of those one of those people movers

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in an airport you just stand still and

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it moves you forward into a new state of

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consciousness where you say you begin to

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have intuitions both of the ease of

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dying and of what's coming on the other

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side it's almost like the veil baguettes

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baguettes thinner yeah this thing people

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think that when you die that it just

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happens and you're done and it's gone

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but you know process that happens every

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day that you are alive so to speak and

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of course it has starts to exponentiate

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towards you get you the climax or the

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zine of the graduating point you had

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said the body knows how to die so my

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question to you is you said a minute ago

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at the age of 69 I am starting to feel

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it what does that feel like so us on not

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there at 69 yet can actually know when

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those subtler finer delicate energies of

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becoming present so we can maybe have a

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head start from a gleam something from

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your coming into your own sure you know

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there's a lot of subtle changes in this

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period that are out what I've called

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enlightenment in slow motion they won't

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affect you if you don't know about that

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but attention if you pay attention you

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can notice some things changing and you

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and you say oh my gosh this is where the

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the Mystics and the gurus have been

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talking about and it's happening to me

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let me give you some examples there's a

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gradual fading of identity of as if who

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you think you are or who you're supposed

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to be is really not very important and

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actually you begin to realize it doesn't

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exist at all it's just a construction

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your own mic because right here and

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right now there's only this this

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consciousness in which we float that if

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we get in touch with begins to bring us

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incredible feelings of bliss and

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serenity there's also in this process of

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changing consciousness as a relief that

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we don't have to be anybody anymore you

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don't have to put on that the the

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costume of identity and be somebody

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important and pursue goals because that

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was all part of the middle years the

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middle years are gone and it's a mixed

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blessing because then you know you early

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boomers want their like conquer aging

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with the same philosophy as the middle

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years but it won't work you need to let

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that whole thing go like one of the many

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skins you've let go before and you're in

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your life and allow your tray or

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consciousness to be transformed into a

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much wider more open more spacious one

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and then what happens is time becomes

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less important clock day planner

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calendar they they don't much anymore

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the whole high gear thing is gone so we

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don't worry about doing things quickly

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and increasingly you drop into a kind of

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a silent thoughtless consciousness you

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know like you're looking out the window

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and you can can't see the dust motes

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kind of floating in the Sun and for a

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moment you're not there you're just in

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this space beyond identity and it's an

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intimation of the consciousness that's

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always here but that you're beginning to

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dissolve into so yeah what a great way

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to say we dissolve into so it's no

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longer about superficiality it's about

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depth it's about meaning all that

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frivolous stuff all those bells and

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whistles begin to follow up all the way

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because now there's more presence about

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depth we can equate depth to spirit that

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which is real that which is meaningful

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so again what the closer someone gets to

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their time of passing there's an equal

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amount of grace when I said grace I

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meant grace in the sense of grace that

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there's not this oh my gosh I'm getting

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closer to death kind of worried yeah you

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know but you know most people actually

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at the end I very peacefully it's very

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easy it's the struggle beforehand

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because we have all these

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misunderstandings about what death is

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and if we've got

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some hell and and and brim fire kind of

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teach early teachings of that death is

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going to lead to hell and damnation and

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judgment then of course we're really

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scared but in truth that's not where it

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goes that stuff just has to be burned

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away like karma so you can relax into

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the presence the divine presence and and

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let it just come in mix with you like

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two gases mixing and then it's all right

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you know then there's a great deep you

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know relaxation breath and then you're

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gone I have a really good question or a

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good point and I would like you to

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support the point or answer the question

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yeah I'm channeling it I literally chant

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chanting at right now because I have it

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in the form of an idea concept because

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of people like you who gives us the

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listening audience information about how

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it feel knowing what you know the

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research you've done the practice that

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you have lived giving us the information

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for example when you stated that I feel

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it coming on at the age of 69 so if we

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can learn be it through you your books

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or just self awareness practice that if

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we can start detecting those changes day

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by day week by week and start to see

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things starting to move and get lighter

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and subtle and our focus begins to shift

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on that which is no longer important and

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all these things we could actually

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perfect our transition say I'm 51 and I

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decide I'm going to die at 85 86 years

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old but at the age of 51 I can perfect

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my transition process so that when the

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taxicab does pull up there's no hiccup

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there's no jerk there's no blackout that

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is truly an amalgamation a crossfade a

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transition and an effortless one with no

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sense of dizziness or fogginess or spin

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kind of idea that what does that make

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any sense to you oh yeah it does and I

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think that as it's a very important

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practice aging aging is a spiritual

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practice and as you learn to live in a

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consciousness without thought you know

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in a spacious consciousness where you're

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not caught up in thought or even

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believing in your own thoughts because

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they're all forms of delusion

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the stage when you live as free of

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thought then yes those may come up and

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at the end you might suddenly get an old

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fear that you thought forgot about a

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long time ago but the key is to let it

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come and let it go and return you know

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you don't get it get on it like a horse

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and right off their sense of you you

370
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just let it pass through and the next

371
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thing you know you're back in that space

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again and everything's okay so does the

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letting go process getting easier as

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well or is that something we should take

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upon ourselves now absolutely of course

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the DI the practice of letting go

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releasing that which is tangent that

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which is not real just even beliefs and

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all these things the practice of letting

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go but does it come again yet as part of

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that grace that when those thoughts

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might come in being raised Catholic a

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devil hellfire damnation right know that

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may come in in my senior years is the

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same grace administered through being

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able to let it go a lot easier than

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previous times in life sure I mean aging

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is all about letting go aging is all

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about a series of losses of who you

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think you are an event of health and of

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a certain kind of physical mobility and

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of dreams of the future and of all end

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of your importance of society but all of

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those actually are useful because when

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you let them go they open the space that

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they open much more space for you to be

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in the presence and to be in the

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presences to be in grace so when you're

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when you here free of thoughts wide

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awake um in the moment what happens is

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that consciousness is not yours its

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really the divine consciousness that

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really got body and so as long as you're

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not intellectually separating yourself

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from all that by believing in yourself

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as all that goes it's all right you're

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the whole thing I think the divine human

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really is way where we're heading and I

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n is particularly available as we age

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because there's this huge new

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developmental stage called aging which

412
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is like 20 years longer than it ever

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used to be in the human life cycle it's

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a brand new developmental stage and as

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all these ideas about ourselves and our

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attachments our security and all that

417
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stuff goes away what's left is always

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consciousness and

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sciousness is presence I'm is very

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exciting when you realize that wow I may

421
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lose everything but get at all because

422
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this is it you and mention that we're

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headed towards becoming the divine human

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the word human and of itself is divine

425
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the word hue is another name for God in

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eckankar the religion of sound and light

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in accents Hugh means Divine a man is of

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the earth so we are naturally that is

429
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just that we know forgot exactly we knew

430
00:19:28,020 --> 00:19:26,320
it as young children we were grounded in

431
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the divinity of our own being and then

432
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family culture school peers all caught

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us up in this sense of pursuing an

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identity and at this constant project of

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improving yourself and your resume and

436
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that took over four decades and and then

437
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the final stage of life what happens is

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that whole thing begins to dissolve

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disappear you know you know like like

440
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fog in the Sun and then you realize that

441
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:51,490
was all you would chase it you're

442
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running in circles you were chasing your

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tail because what's here now is what

444
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you've always been looking for you just

445
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tried to find it someplace else you know

446
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:01,179
I've always said that when the first

447
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first word a child no child learns that

448
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represents separation is the word know

449
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the reason young infants grab the things

450
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on the coffee table that your

451
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grandmother gave you that are made out

452
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of glass it's because they know they can

453
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they know it absolutely belongs to them

454
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they are not separate from those things

455
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that they are fondling with and telling

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lies we drive it absolutely and then we

457
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say no and that very first no cuts that

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dagger right through the experience says

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you are now you and this is now that yes

460
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it doesn't belong to you right and share

461
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your things and I'm separate from you

462
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and your brothers better than you are

463
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and blah blah blah and it's a very sad

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and then karma comes comes into play why

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did we incarnate in this particular

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continent this particular stateless

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particular city into this particular

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family just to hear the word no so there

469
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is so many variables yeah but it's all

470
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about it's like you say it's all about

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waking up and when a Qing is that is the

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great awakener because you know you know

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you it's going to end you that you can't

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keep putting it off and so if you're

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going to understand yourself now is the

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time and the more awake you become the

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more you realize that you you have been

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living a life of illusion because you

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have already been in the divine world

480
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one of the things that happens in the

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mystical experiences that people not

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only feel a presence and feel surrounded

483
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and and perfused with divinity but the

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world itself becomes beautiful and

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bright and clear almost like hyper hyper

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real painting or photograph so and

487
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everything becomes luminous in this

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mystical experience and so that you

489
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begin to realize that we didn't lose the

490
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garden is already always been here we

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just left it on our own accord because

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we thought that that we had to become

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somebody important to get what we needed

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and as that somebody important melts

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away like a wax statue in the Sun we we

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are back to that place we started as TS

497
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Eliot set and it's spectacularly

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beautiful this we've always been in the

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garden we've always been sacred and this

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is what we need this is why grandparents

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collude with grandchildren whether

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knowing or unknowingly because they

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realize that their grandchildren are

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still in the garden and they're trying

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to help them stay there longer before

506
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the parents suck them into the world of

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you know accomplishments and resumes and

508
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grades yeah yeah and that's why I think

509
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my grant Mike one of my grandmother's in

510
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particular was such a soft place to fall

511
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yeah there's nothing like the grand

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mother's bosom nothing I mean grandpa

513
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yeah there's an incarnation of the

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divine in that moment absolutely you

515
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were talking about the world as you age

516
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it becomes a lumen there's a light

517
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there's of God fire there's a beauty

518
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there's an all miss about it

519
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I'm wondering if that is preparing for

520
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:08,029
our own illumination um getting us ready

521
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for the light yeah but is it is

522
00:23:16,029 --> 00:23:13,700
rumination the light is already shining

523
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the light is shining in us and that

524
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affects you know our capacity to see the

525
00:23:21,850 --> 00:23:19,999
light all around us and it's so that

526
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:21,860
that's why see if we if we're afraid of

527
00:23:25,779 --> 00:23:23,570
this thing we say oh my god I must have

528
00:23:27,549 --> 00:23:25,789
had a bad day or you know I on the wrong

529
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medication or something and we dismiss

530
00:23:32,139 --> 00:23:29,269
it that's why it's so important that

531
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everything you've experienced that you

532
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:34,549
try to experience it fully because in it

533
00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:36,799
is is the unfolding path of your

534
00:23:45,009 --> 00:23:41,360
transformation John why your fascination

535
00:23:46,450 --> 00:23:45,019
with aging and death did you have an

536
00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:46,460
experience have you worked we have

537
00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:48,769
clients that have near-death experience

538
00:23:54,039 --> 00:23:50,960
have you done some studying what brought

539
00:23:56,139 --> 00:23:54,049
you to this place of wanting to empower

540
00:23:59,950 --> 00:23:56,149
people about this beautiful process of

541
00:24:01,359 --> 00:23:59,960
life ironically death well you know it's

542
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:01,369
interesting that you should ask when I

543
00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:04,610
when I was 14 I had I know when

544
00:24:08,529 --> 00:24:06,799
open-heart surgery for atrial septal

545
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:08,539
defect a hole in the upper two chambers

546
00:24:14,049 --> 00:24:11,450
of the heart and in that in that surgery

547
00:24:15,999 --> 00:24:14,059
I actually woke up and I woke and they

548
00:24:18,460 --> 00:24:16,009
didn't know it but I did I woke up and I

549
00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:18,470
could feel the surgeons hands inside my

550
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:21,110
heart I could feel the coldness I in and

551
00:24:24,489 --> 00:24:22,369
that's in that experience you're

552
00:24:26,350 --> 00:24:24,499
paralyzed your you've got blindfold over

553
00:24:28,330 --> 00:24:26,360
your eyes that we're body temperatures

554
00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:28,340
tuned way down your heart is stopped and

555
00:24:32,889 --> 00:24:30,289
the heart-lung machine is plugged in but

556
00:24:35,109 --> 00:24:32,899
I had an experience of death I mean this

557
00:24:37,330 --> 00:24:35,119
was like a living autopsy I was aware of

558
00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:37,340
this state I was aware of my chest open

559
00:24:42,009 --> 00:24:39,769
it was a riffic experience and it's

560
00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:42,019
taken me well i repressed the whole

561
00:24:47,379 --> 00:24:44,240
thing for 40 years and 40 years to the

562
00:24:48,460 --> 00:24:47,389
month I had a I was cardioverted you

563
00:24:50,409 --> 00:24:48,470
know where they give a shock to your

564
00:24:52,810 --> 00:24:50,419
chest because of atrial fibrillation and

565
00:24:55,090 --> 00:24:52,820
it all came back and so that the whole

566
00:24:57,489 --> 00:24:55,100
process for me was like in a shamanic

567
00:24:59,200 --> 00:24:57,499
initiation just delayed for 40 years

568
00:25:01,149 --> 00:24:59,210
because at 14 I should have had it at

569
00:25:03,369 --> 00:25:01,159
that age but the whole thing was so

570
00:25:05,980 --> 00:25:03,379
catastrophic that my psyche protected me

571
00:25:08,409 --> 00:25:05,990
by separating it off but when it came

572
00:25:12,159 --> 00:25:08,419
back I realized that that part of my

573
00:25:13,869 --> 00:25:12,169
calling here was to get back in touch

574
00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:13,879
with this experience to realize that I

575
00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:14,310
am

576
00:25:22,910 --> 00:25:20,130
not these expectations I have and what a

577
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:22,920
relief that is and if we only didn't get

578
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:24,570
so tangled up in our thoughts about

579
00:25:29,180 --> 00:25:26,250
ourselves we would find out that we're

580
00:25:31,850 --> 00:25:29,190
already we're already not only defined

581
00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:31,860
but we're already eternal the forms will

582
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:33,510
change but the consciousness goes on

583
00:25:38,660 --> 00:25:37,050
forever so I had an ear I had what you

584
00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:38,670
might call a near-death experience not

585
00:25:42,350 --> 00:25:40,710
an out of body type but it the type that

586
00:25:44,900 --> 00:25:42,360
said this is what it looks like this is

587
00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:44,910
what it is but it's but in fact it isn't

588
00:25:48,650 --> 00:25:46,710
this is actually something much more

589
00:25:53,210 --> 00:25:48,660
grams so you did have enough of a

590
00:25:55,910 --> 00:25:53,220
glimpse to capture a feeling of and more

591
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:55,920
expanded awareness about it versus being

592
00:26:01,160 --> 00:25:58,320
like quote one of us on this side just

593
00:26:03,050 --> 00:26:01,170
kind of guessing and assuming yeah I had

594
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:03,060
a taste of it yeah well and you have

595
00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:05,250
also found that in my older years here

596
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:07,710
when somebody dies on close to it's as

597
00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:09,570
if a window opens through their dying

598
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:11,370
and I can follow them for a period of

599
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:13,890
time when my mother died you know I was

600
00:26:18,110 --> 00:26:16,410
really had a sense that i could continue

601
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:18,120
communicating with her and find out what

602
00:26:22,790 --> 00:26:20,640
she was doing next and and what her

603
00:26:25,340 --> 00:26:22,800
struggle was after that and also with my

604
00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:25,350
father and a nephew that died and it's

605
00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:26,940
been kind of wonderful following these

606
00:26:31,730 --> 00:26:29,910
people to see how they've come to terms

607
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:31,740
with what happened and how they moved on

608
00:26:37,460 --> 00:26:33,330
with their life now in this next world

609
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:37,470
the window opens at the the the capacity

610
00:26:42,410 --> 00:26:40,080
to to experience the consciousness that

611
00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:42,420
embraces them all it's all coexisting

612
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:44,700
and as veil gets thinner you say oh I

613
00:26:49,370 --> 00:26:46,890
can still talk to her you know she can

614
00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:49,380
still tell me what's going on nothing is

615
00:26:58,700 --> 00:26:53,790
what you think it is you know when my

616
00:27:01,400 --> 00:26:58,710
sister passed some years ago mm-hmm um I

617
00:27:04,340 --> 00:27:01,410
got a phone call I just moved to Memphis

618
00:27:05,570 --> 00:27:04,350
Tennessee had just moved and two weeks

619
00:27:07,070 --> 00:27:05,580
later I get a phone call from my dad

620
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:07,080
telling me to come home my sister's

621
00:27:12,050 --> 00:27:08,970
gonna pass I get there to the hospital

622
00:27:15,050 --> 00:27:12,060
bed and I grab her hands and she's

623
00:27:17,150 --> 00:27:15,060
unconscious and John she was pulling me

624
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:17,160
out of my body or I was leaving to her

625
00:27:22,190 --> 00:27:20,010
current as she was associating and I

626
00:27:24,170 --> 00:27:22,200
started to get what at least what I

627
00:27:25,550 --> 00:27:24,180
thought from that moment was faint at

628
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:25,560
least that's what it's felt what it felt

629
00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:27,600
like got it but I knew something much

630
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:28,080
more

631
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:30,450
Rand and was going life force was

632
00:27:35,419 --> 00:27:33,090
beginning to be drawn out yes there were

633
00:27:37,130 --> 00:27:35,429
yes definitely and I had to sit down

634
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:37,140
against the hospital wall my mom and dad

635
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:39,570
said ki te ok I said yeah I'm just fine

636
00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:41,730
of course my mother's a worrywart and so

637
00:27:45,889 --> 00:27:43,200
last thing to do is tell her what it

638
00:27:47,210 --> 00:27:45,899
felt like yeah searching going this

639
00:27:50,450 --> 00:27:47,220
tailspin oh my god I'm losing two

640
00:27:52,340 --> 00:27:50,460
children but all in years into the

641
00:27:54,590 --> 00:27:52,350
future i'm playing music in Memphis

642
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:54,600
Tennessee one night at a club friday

643
00:27:59,570 --> 00:27:57,210
night long story short a couple of weeks

644
00:28:01,730 --> 00:27:59,580
before this particular night in event a

645
00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:01,740
friend of mine was there she was telling

646
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:04,080
me about she missed her deceased

647
00:28:07,310 --> 00:28:05,610
boyfriend and she was another girlfriend

648
00:28:08,750 --> 00:28:07,320
all these indirect ways of saying i

649
00:28:10,279 --> 00:28:08,760
wanna die i wanna die i want to see I

650
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:10,289
want to be with him I want to see his

651
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:12,690
face and all this so I totally be

652
00:28:15,740 --> 00:28:14,159
careful the next week the same thing

653
00:28:17,299 --> 00:28:15,750
happened hey Keith and she's drunk and

654
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:17,309
my boyfriend and I miss him and I wish

655
00:28:22,370 --> 00:28:20,330
it was me and on him that I did it up I

656
00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:22,380
told the same thing you might want to be

657
00:28:29,539 --> 00:28:25,880
careful that night her her ex-boyfriend

658
00:28:32,570 --> 00:28:29,549
at that time they had some troubles in a

659
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:32,580
relationship came to the club mmm scrams

660
00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:34,320
two dollars and his change to get in to

661
00:28:38,210 --> 00:28:36,000
pay the admission looked around the room

662
00:28:39,740 --> 00:28:38,220
saw her walked up to her pushed her

663
00:28:43,820 --> 00:28:39,750
police officer boyfriend out the way and

664
00:28:46,220 --> 00:28:43,830
shot in the back dad with all and so I'm

665
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:46,230
about to go on stage and I hear snap and

666
00:28:50,570 --> 00:28:48,450
if you don't turn my PA system in my

667
00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:50,580
amplifier insert order there's an

668
00:28:54,350 --> 00:28:51,990
electrical pass through and there's a

669
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:54,360
snap and so exactly when I flip that

670
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:55,919
switch there was that sound so I

671
00:28:59,930 --> 00:28:58,559
attributed to that and then I hear it

672
00:29:02,299 --> 00:28:59,940
again and people are rushing towards to

673
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:02,309
say stayed saying oh my god and I'm

674
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:04,080
saying oh my god that's a gun and so I'm

675
00:29:07,970 --> 00:29:05,850
in denial while I'm ducking cuz I'm

676
00:29:10,909 --> 00:29:07,980
saying just can't be happening so after

677
00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:10,919
I felt confident that things were okay

678
00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:16,049
45 seconds minute later um I went around

679
00:29:21,860 --> 00:29:18,480
the room and I saw her laying on the

680
00:29:24,379 --> 00:29:21,870
floor dying and they were police officer

681
00:29:26,990 --> 00:29:24,389
were fans of the band paramedics and I'm

682
00:29:29,090 --> 00:29:27,000
running in in to her and a couple of

683
00:29:31,250 --> 00:29:29,100
cops say uh where you think you go and

684
00:29:32,990 --> 00:29:31,260
she's one of the main people there

685
00:29:38,269 --> 00:29:33,000
paramedic said let him go she wants she

686
00:29:41,220 --> 00:29:38,279
would want to talk to him Wow is that is

687
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:41,230
very profound and yeah tragic and so

688
00:29:47,610 --> 00:29:46,090
as I walk up runnable I mean I get on

689
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:47,620
the floor with her and I put her hand

690
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:50,650
and one in my hand and I put her head in

691
00:29:57,270 --> 00:29:53,440
my other and I began to talk to her and

692
00:30:00,690 --> 00:29:57,280
all the fear I had when that shot went

693
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:00,700
off all the fear and anxiety and anger I

694
00:30:06,390 --> 00:30:03,600
was mad even before I knew was her um

695
00:30:10,590 --> 00:30:06,400
that took place when I touched her

696
00:30:13,650 --> 00:30:10,600
magically it stopped yeah it became

697
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:13,660
something very very beautiful why I felt

698
00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:16,690
honored I felt privileged yes blessed

699
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:19,870
that her and God or higher Constance

700
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:23,110
divine trusted me enough to be the

701
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:25,090
person who whispers sweet somethings in

702
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:27,010
her ear as she was passing and that

703
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:30,640
experience for me as you said was not

704
00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:34,090
about death it was about an opening so

705
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:38,710
through her dying I got to touch that

706
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:41,710
place within myself that's beautiful

707
00:30:45,659 --> 00:30:43,360
what a beautiful experience what and

708
00:30:48,030 --> 00:30:45,669
what a wonderful teaching it was because

709
00:30:50,220 --> 00:30:48,040
we recoil from what looks like a

710
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:50,230
horrible thing but yet when we're right

711
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:51,850
when we're right with it and touch it is

712
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:54,850
not what we thought it was people who

713
00:30:58,890 --> 00:30:56,320
have out-of-body experiences when

714
00:31:00,240 --> 00:30:58,900
they're you know in a car accident or

715
00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:00,250
something they may be floating above

716
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:01,840
their body looking down and theirs and

717
00:31:05,310 --> 00:31:03,130
they're trying to communicate to the

718
00:31:07,289 --> 00:31:05,320
paramedics and say hey hey that's okay I

719
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:07,299
feel great let me go you know I never

720
00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:10,000
felt so good you know I just wish that

721
00:31:15,659 --> 00:31:12,580
everyone in that run could have felt

722
00:31:19,409 --> 00:31:15,669
what I felt because while I was having

723
00:31:21,030 --> 00:31:19,419
this amazing wash of bliss um and her

724
00:31:23,970 --> 00:31:21,040
death was beautiful to me they were

725
00:31:26,669 --> 00:31:23,980
still in the experience of the fear the

726
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:26,679
anger the separation the pet the pain

727
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:29,049
the death to lost the grief to dying all

728
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:33,070
those energies yeah yeah John we're at

729
00:31:37,530 --> 00:31:34,809
the bottom of the hour would you give

730
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:37,540
out your contacts sir to our listening

731
00:31:40,860 --> 00:31:39,250
audience incentive light radio and let

732
00:31:43,409 --> 00:31:40,870
them know how they can find more of you

733
00:31:45,419 --> 00:31:43,419
your books and all this phenomenal work

734
00:31:50,220 --> 00:31:45,429
you're doing hey thank you so much as

735
00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:50,230
you can find me at ww John Robinson RBI

736
00:31:55,740 --> 00:31:54,070
NSO an org orgy

737
00:31:58,410 --> 00:31:55,750
there you'll find all my books and my

738
00:32:00,270 --> 00:31:58,420
wet my website you can yeah you're

739
00:32:01,590 --> 00:32:00,280
welcome to I've got a you know email

740
00:32:03,510 --> 00:32:01,600
link there you're welcome to email me I

741
00:32:05,670 --> 00:32:03,520
love to respond to people's requests and

742
00:32:08,580 --> 00:32:05,680
questions and so forth so come visit me

743
00:32:10,770 --> 00:32:08,590
I can tell that you do I can tell that

744
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:10,780
you know you may have busy days and some

745
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:12,880
emails mike becker but i can see you as

746
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:15,310
the guy that gets in there and makes a

747
00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:18,490
sandwich you get in there and you talk

748
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:20,350
to people and that that's why you and I

749
00:32:24,780 --> 00:32:22,450
have such a great kick when we do this

750
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:24,790
show listening audience make sure that

751
00:32:32,190 --> 00:32:30,370
you dial 8 8 8 9 19 2 3 5 5 8 8 8 9 19 2

752
00:32:34,830 --> 00:32:32,200
3 5 5 come on the air with John and

753
00:32:38,730 --> 00:32:34,840
myself come say hi center of light radio

754
00:32:45,390 --> 00:32:38,740
Monday night's 6 p.m. eastern daylight

755
00:32:47,790 --> 00:32:45,400
time you know John I've had experiences

756
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:47,800
soul experiences when I've been to the

757
00:32:51,870 --> 00:32:50,290
other side not per se astral travel

758
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:51,880
though it might have been astral travel

759
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:54,370
and higher forms this was more like a

760
00:33:00,720 --> 00:32:57,760
causal experience I was touching and

761
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:00,730
can't there's no word in fact you're not

762
00:33:04,940 --> 00:33:02,770
supposed to use hard but no way i can

763
00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:04,950
describe with words there was like

764
00:33:11,580 --> 00:33:08,950
subtler and subtler layers and I was

765
00:33:14,850 --> 00:33:11,590
actually brought once brought came upon

766
00:33:19,110 --> 00:33:14,860
the Godhead excuse me and the experience

767
00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:19,120
that was about to happen was the only

768
00:33:24,660 --> 00:33:22,240
thing separating myself my conscious

769
00:33:27,870 --> 00:33:24,670
awareness from it which I absolutely

770
00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:27,880
knew without a doubt beyond myself in

771
00:33:33,330 --> 00:33:30,190
this layer was the Godhead and it dawned

772
00:33:36,570 --> 00:33:33,340
on me that what this layer was was a

773
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:36,580
thought in my mind it wasn't a wall it

774
00:33:42,030 --> 00:33:40,090
wasn't permission it was a belief in my

775
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:42,040
head okay Keith you have now come upon

776
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:44,640
the center of creation so in that

777
00:33:52,650 --> 00:33:47,410
declaration odd I've automatically had

778
00:33:55,950 --> 00:33:52,660
separated myself from it and I was truly

779
00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:55,960
given a glimpse and basically like a

780
00:34:00,990 --> 00:33:58,960
girl Kurt on a stage being lifted up

781
00:34:02,820 --> 00:34:01,000
real quick and dropped down again in a

782
00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:02,830
matter of a second I mean it happened

783
00:34:07,450 --> 00:34:05,260
that fast but in that second I was able

784
00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:07,460
to get a blast of light information

785
00:34:14,530 --> 00:34:12,409
knowledge experience I knew another part

786
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:14,540
of the separation thought I knew that

787
00:34:19,389 --> 00:34:16,639
somewhere down there a gazillion miles

788
00:34:22,089 --> 00:34:19,399
down on bed was the body the identity

789
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:22,099
Keith Blanchard all that is important to

790
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:25,040
him dang it and all my arrogance and all

791
00:34:30,700 --> 00:34:28,490
my beliefs all my subconscious Catholic

792
00:34:32,619 --> 00:34:30,710
believes in what I thought is right and

793
00:34:34,510 --> 00:34:32,629
wrong holy and blasphemous good and bad

794
00:34:39,849 --> 00:34:34,520
love enlightened all this cool stuff and

795
00:34:44,169 --> 00:34:39,859
I realize I was not ready to no pun

796
00:34:46,359 --> 00:34:44,179
intended died I am they showed me that

797
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:46,369
glimpse in day which I can't explain it

798
00:34:50,349 --> 00:34:48,129
if you see no second movie The Matrix

799
00:34:52,930 --> 00:34:50,359
yeah when they're in the tunnel and they

800
00:34:56,290 --> 00:34:52,940
all just doing this primal tribal kind

801
00:34:58,990 --> 00:34:56,300
of passionate juicy stomping and dancing

802
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:59,000
and celebratory kind of thing I have no

803
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:01,040
other words describe it but it was like

804
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:04,250
that and so obviously I chose not to

805
00:35:09,220 --> 00:35:06,530
walk into it because the the final part

806
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:09,230
of the separate of thought was that if I

807
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:11,599
walk into their I'm not going to come

808
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:14,089
back uh-huh well you've had a mystical

809
00:35:19,890 --> 00:35:16,490
experience that had near-death qualities

810
00:35:22,210 --> 00:35:19,900
to it that you know and in fact when you

811
00:35:24,490 --> 00:35:22,220
done a lot of workshops with people on

812
00:35:25,690 --> 00:35:24,500
mysticism and when I ask people when it

813
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:25,700
might explain to people what what a

814
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:27,770
mystical experience is that that kind of

815
00:35:33,310 --> 00:35:31,330
experience with experience of oneness or

816
00:35:34,750 --> 00:35:33,320
surrounded by a presence or a

817
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:34,760
brightening of the light or a sense of

818
00:35:39,849 --> 00:35:37,250
unity almost everybody will raise their

819
00:35:41,650 --> 00:35:39,859
hands and say the end they can find when

820
00:35:44,050 --> 00:35:41,660
we've all had them because the divine is

821
00:35:46,990 --> 00:35:44,060
leaking into our experience all the time

822
00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:47,000
seekers like you and me try harder and

823
00:35:51,250 --> 00:35:49,280
so oftentimes we have bigger experiences

824
00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:51,260
like that but not necessarily such a lot

825
00:35:54,430 --> 00:35:52,609
of people have profound mystical

826
00:35:56,290 --> 00:35:54,440
experience who were not religious and

827
00:35:58,570 --> 00:35:56,300
not trying and suddenly they're walking

828
00:36:01,060 --> 00:35:58,580
across a field and it hits them and they

829
00:36:03,099 --> 00:36:01,070
are forever changed the thing is that

830
00:36:07,060 --> 00:36:03,109
what you're experiencing in that in that

831
00:36:10,420 --> 00:36:07,070
profound a mystical unity with the other

832
00:36:12,460 --> 00:36:10,430
is experiencing yourself that's the self

833
00:36:14,589 --> 00:36:12,470
with the capital s that's the Godhead

834
00:36:18,609 --> 00:36:14,599
that we always project outside ourselves

835
00:36:20,020 --> 00:36:18,619
and then try to find but the irony is of

836
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:20,030
course that we can't find it someplace

837
00:36:23,020 --> 00:36:21,290
else until we go with

838
00:36:25,420 --> 00:36:23,030
then and find it at like you say the

839
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:25,430
bottom at the center of our own creation

840
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:28,250
and there it is and we still haven't

841
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:30,290
tendency you know I'm spiritually

842
00:36:34,990 --> 00:36:32,240
looming your spiritual element we're all

843
00:36:36,670 --> 00:36:35,000
spirits with right and we know all the

844
00:36:38,260 --> 00:36:36,680
truths and we know all the principles

845
00:36:41,020 --> 00:36:38,270
when all the techniques we know exactly

846
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:41,030
where it is to find it we still keep

847
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:44,810
looking outside well roomy wonder if the

848
00:36:50,410 --> 00:36:46,610
wonderful Sufi poet said none of us have

849
00:36:53,530 --> 00:36:50,420
gone far which is probably an apt

850
00:36:54,940 --> 00:36:53,540
description haha and you know and then

851
00:36:56,500 --> 00:36:54,950
there's the other side of that coin and

852
00:36:58,030 --> 00:36:56,510
fact is the whole coin it's there's not

853
00:37:00,190 --> 00:36:58,040
an inside there's not an outside all

854
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:00,200
there is is really an inside yeah that

855
00:37:04,660 --> 00:37:01,490
all those things are boundaries that are

856
00:37:06,850 --> 00:37:04,670
artificial we create those to divide the

857
00:37:09,820 --> 00:37:06,860
world up and into the 10,000 things and

858
00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:09,830
then we struggle with them and it comes

859
00:37:14,410 --> 00:37:12,320
as they all melt away yeah and I told

860
00:37:19,180 --> 00:37:14,420
that long story because of something you

861
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:19,190
said that when we cross over it's it's

862
00:37:23,650 --> 00:37:21,110
not about the thoughts and those

863
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:23,660
thoughts as I was describing in my

864
00:37:27,790 --> 00:37:26,240
experience no Matt and I even described

865
00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:27,800
a bunch of them they were believed they

866
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:29,390
were right and wrong good and Bad's holy

867
00:37:34,690 --> 00:37:31,280
blast most these are all just thoughts

868
00:37:37,140 --> 00:37:34,700
they're just fanciful ideas actly eggs

869
00:37:39,970 --> 00:37:37,150
and they have no meaning whatsoever

870
00:37:41,470 --> 00:37:39,980
exact only becomes reals when it passes

871
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:41,480
through your mind like a cloud if you

872
00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:42,890
grab it and that's when you anchoring

873
00:37:47,020 --> 00:37:44,480
congeal it to the earth energy because

874
00:37:50,170 --> 00:37:47,030
you're physical you at you and continue

875
00:37:52,900 --> 00:37:50,180
in intending you're willing you're

876
00:37:56,590 --> 00:37:52,910
calling it forth but so it's really

877
00:37:58,720 --> 00:37:56,600
about letting go yeah we create a lot of

878
00:38:00,250 --> 00:37:58,730
suffering we're a number of suffering

879
00:38:03,220 --> 00:38:00,260
with these belief systems that we attach

880
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:03,230
to and then try to fix ourselves with an

881
00:38:08,050 --> 00:38:05,090
erroneous belief or the first place and

882
00:38:10,180 --> 00:38:08,060
we do this for years the but you know

883
00:38:12,010 --> 00:38:10,190
the spiritual path and mins the stages

884
00:38:15,850 --> 00:38:12,020
of faith the stages of spirituality

885
00:38:17,890 --> 00:38:15,860
always get to a place where um you

886
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:17,900
realize that it's not in books it is not

887
00:38:22,540 --> 00:38:20,170
in teachers and it's not in complicated

888
00:38:25,410 --> 00:38:22,550
philosophies or theologies it's in the

889
00:38:29,260 --> 00:38:25,420
moment it's in the silence it's in here

890
00:38:32,620 --> 00:38:29,270
so there's really no spiritual practice

891
00:38:34,180 --> 00:38:32,630
this is questioned you other than truly

892
00:38:34,860 --> 00:38:34,190
there are different practice and in

893
00:38:37,830 --> 00:38:34,870
technique

894
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:37,840
news but in the end it's really all like

895
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:40,330
letting go because all the thoughts that

896
00:38:44,580 --> 00:38:42,160
we have that are higher in nature that's

897
00:38:48,210 --> 00:38:44,590
one thing but it's all the other earthly

898
00:38:52,050 --> 00:38:48,220
stuff that we need to dissipate let go

899
00:38:53,820 --> 00:38:52,060
of in order to ascend a little more the

900
00:38:55,830 --> 00:38:53,830
transition to be smoother from the chat

901
00:38:57,660 --> 00:38:55,840
room profanity profundity has a

902
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:57,670
phenomenal question and I've always

903
00:39:01,800 --> 00:38:59,680
thought this myself at least when I

904
00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:01,810
could see at a glance he asked a

905
00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:04,510
question John are we not always quote

906
00:39:10,170 --> 00:39:07,270
there but just not consciously aware of

907
00:39:12,420 --> 00:39:10,180
it loudly while here they don't we

908
00:39:15,540 --> 00:39:12,430
occupy both the spirit realm in the

909
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:15,550
physical realm concurrently yes and the

910
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:18,250
key is to stop thinking heightened

911
00:39:23,820 --> 00:39:20,910
awareness come into the presence

912
00:39:26,340 --> 00:39:23,830
experience the prayer and then see where

913
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:26,350
you really are all that stuff washes

914
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:28,000
away and you realize you're in the

915
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:32,530
garden yeah because we can't be here and

916
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:35,770
not there because you know we manifest

917
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:37,680
our physical bodies from the realm of

918
00:39:42,810 --> 00:39:40,690
the unified field from the quantum birth

919
00:39:46,020 --> 00:39:42,820
field we produce literally project

920
00:39:49,830 --> 00:39:46,030
ourselves into three-dimensional figures

921
00:39:51,540 --> 00:39:49,840
of matter but if we were not there still

922
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:51,550
there would be no extension of light

923
00:39:57,590 --> 00:39:53,730
forever that connection that for that

924
00:40:00,780 --> 00:39:57,600
expression to ever happen mmhmm yeah

925
00:40:03,630 --> 00:40:00,790
that me Unity means unity it doesn't

926
00:40:07,020 --> 00:40:03,640
mean you know well right right as above

927
00:40:09,210 --> 00:40:07,030
so below yeah exactly so this is M you

928
00:40:12,930 --> 00:40:09,220
know the sadly pantheism got a really

929
00:40:14,610 --> 00:40:12,940
negative wrap it what you know when

930
00:40:16,110 --> 00:40:14,620
science said oh it doesn't make any

931
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:16,120
sense of religion said the world has

932
00:40:20,190 --> 00:40:17,920
fallen and we you know it's all sinful

933
00:40:22,590 --> 00:40:20,200
and and blah blah blah and the truth is

934
00:40:25,170 --> 00:40:22,600
it's all god it's only God exists and

935
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:25,180
then we with our minds make all these

936
00:40:30,570 --> 00:40:28,450
separations and when we dissolve the

937
00:40:32,730 --> 00:40:30,580
separations and as we age and we realize

938
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:32,740
oh my gosh i'm part of the oneness how

939
00:40:37,140 --> 00:40:35,410
glorious is this and there's no place to

940
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:37,150
go there's nothing to figure out there's

941
00:40:41,970 --> 00:40:40,090
nothing to dissolve I've been in it all

942
00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:41,980
the time then there's a peacefulness

943
00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:49,250
I'm sure now about this moment in this

944
00:40:55,609 --> 00:40:51,660
radio show you're probably feeling that

945
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:55,619
buzz we're cooking here I feel the

946
00:41:01,280 --> 00:40:58,560
energy I feel my energy elevate I can

947
00:41:03,140 --> 00:41:01,290
only assume it I once a week I have

948
00:41:04,940 --> 00:41:03,150
experienced a to a degree when I

949
00:41:06,609 --> 00:41:04,950
mentioned the Godhead experience but

950
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:06,619
also in some of my nightly excursions

951
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:10,710
but in the transition of death I can

952
00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:14,010
only imagine and I've had many levels of

953
00:41:18,650 --> 00:41:15,510
feeling when I was winning in India with

954
00:41:22,099 --> 00:41:18,660
sai baba being blasted wide open but the

955
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:22,109
remembering that must manifest an anchor

956
00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:24,510
itself like a lightning rod when you

957
00:41:30,980 --> 00:41:27,390
cross over that first bang of reality

958
00:41:32,839 --> 00:41:30,990
must be Jesus something probably your

959
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:32,849
physical body couldn't even stand uh-huh

960
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:35,130
yeah and that life review must be must

961
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:36,810
be incredible and we've all done it many

962
00:41:40,849 --> 00:41:38,970
times you know and I think actually as

963
00:41:43,099 --> 00:41:40,859
you get older and closer to the end you

964
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:43,109
begin to remember more of that again it

965
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:44,970
leaks through from the other side and

966
00:41:49,339 --> 00:41:47,450
you say you know I've done this

967
00:41:51,530 --> 00:41:49,349
transition before I've been through this

968
00:41:56,510 --> 00:41:51,540
passage I feel that's why I think the

969
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:56,520
grace that's a trace that's right whoo

970
00:42:04,220 --> 00:42:00,960
whoo hmm John are you excited about your

971
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,230
passing you know I am you know I've had

972
00:42:08,510 --> 00:42:06,720
various meza medical crises like like a

973
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:08,520
whack you know a couple weeks ago they

974
00:42:12,589 --> 00:42:10,050
thought I had congestive heart failure

975
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:12,599
or in cornea artery disease and and I'm

976
00:42:16,609 --> 00:42:14,970
and I turns out it was probably false

977
00:42:20,420 --> 00:42:16,619
positive we don't know for sure but the

978
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:20,430
thing was I was a of a mixed mind about

979
00:42:25,970 --> 00:42:23,130
it the part of me was oh my gosh I'm not

980
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:25,980
ready but part of me also said this is

981
00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:29,010
no big deal you know i'm i'm i am

982
00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:31,710
infinitely happy that that i am in this

983
00:42:34,970 --> 00:42:33,510
moment and whatever happens does not

984
00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:34,980
really matter this is going to happen

985
00:42:39,470 --> 00:42:36,720
everybody's going to go along they'll be

986
00:42:40,970 --> 00:42:39,480
fine and so I think that when as we age

987
00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:40,980
we have more and more of these kind of

988
00:42:46,099 --> 00:42:43,670
epiphanies like okay so I could die

989
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:46,109
that's all right I was going to ask you

990
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:47,520
a question and you answered it

991
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:50,010
absolutely poetically what you said my

992
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:51,810
question was going to be my first person

993
00:42:55,550 --> 00:42:53,760
can call out a statement which is I

994
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:55,560
didn't want to get personal but I was

995
00:42:58,670 --> 00:42:57,119
going to ask you in situation like you

996
00:43:00,510 --> 00:42:58,680
just described that you might have a

997
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:00,520
medical crisis recently

998
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:04,480
was it could have happened that what the

999
00:43:09,210 --> 00:43:06,640
thoughts what would be in your mind

1000
00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:09,220
would it be ah let me go to the doctor

1001
00:43:12,810 --> 00:43:10,720
of course we want to live as long as we

1002
00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:12,820
can because that playground is going to

1003
00:43:19,260 --> 00:43:16,000
be there forever but yet I'm okay

1004
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:19,270
because I'm infinitely happy and in that

1005
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:22,690
letting go does it create a doorway for

1006
00:43:27,930 --> 00:43:25,810
more longevity versus rushing to the

1007
00:43:32,190 --> 00:43:27,940
doctor which yet is still an intention

1008
00:43:35,490 --> 00:43:32,200
to longevity do you follow me yeah I'm

1009
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:35,500
not quite with you say it again when

1010
00:43:39,660 --> 00:43:37,810
this crisis was upon you yet again in

1011
00:43:42,930 --> 00:43:39,670
your recent past did you find yourself

1012
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:42,940
moving quote but yet metaphorically and

1013
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:46,930
literally into this window of like you

1014
00:43:50,850 --> 00:43:48,730
said I'm blissful I live forever

1015
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:50,860
blissful and happy I'm infinitely happy

1016
00:43:56,540 --> 00:43:53,440
you said yes so did you find yourself

1017
00:44:00,090 --> 00:43:56,550
not rushing to the doctor so quick to

1018
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:00,100
create longevity a little more life but

1019
00:44:06,060 --> 00:44:02,560
yet in your relax letting go about it

1020
00:44:09,090 --> 00:44:06,070
all probably eased your beingness your

1021
00:44:11,970 --> 00:44:09,100
system which may have given you more

1022
00:44:14,310 --> 00:44:11,980
life than freaking out running to the

1023
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:14,320
doctor yes actually I think I think the

1024
00:44:18,930 --> 00:44:16,570
shock of it allowed me to let it go I

1025
00:44:20,340 --> 00:44:18,940
mean I like whoa and and then there was

1026
00:44:22,050 --> 00:44:20,350
a kind of a letting go of the whole

1027
00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:22,060
thing because I realized it was just a

1028
00:44:25,980 --> 00:44:24,550
drama that was happening in my mind that

1029
00:44:28,260 --> 00:44:25,990
was going to you know play out in

1030
00:44:32,820 --> 00:44:28,270
whatever way it did but I was not that

1031
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:32,830
drama and and um there was an okay pneus

1032
00:44:35,790 --> 00:44:34,330
to it I think that's what happens the

1033
00:44:38,610 --> 00:44:35,800
more of these things that happen as we

1034
00:44:41,250 --> 00:44:38,620
age that would have been catastrophic at

1035
00:44:43,140 --> 00:44:41,260
30 or 40 or 50 I think and then later

1036
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:43,150
you say this is part of the journey home

1037
00:44:48,900 --> 00:44:47,050
and oh okay so I that'll happen or won't

1038
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:48,910
happen but I'm no longer so attached to

1039
00:44:53,490 --> 00:44:51,130
be stayin alive as I used to be or I

1040
00:44:55,470 --> 00:44:53,500
need to be and as a result of that I'm

1041
00:44:57,330 --> 00:44:55,480
more comfortable with the flow you know

1042
00:44:59,730 --> 00:44:57,340
with just being in the river of life

1043
00:45:01,470 --> 00:44:59,740
until it goes wherever it goes whether I

1044
00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:01,480
live longer or not seems to be less

1045
00:45:08,490 --> 00:45:05,350
important then then um being okay with

1046
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:08,500
the whole thing feeling that this is

1047
00:45:12,529 --> 00:45:11,200
about this vast love Wells up inside of

1048
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,539
me from the

1049
00:45:17,209 --> 00:45:14,400
the depths of my being and this joy

1050
00:45:20,799 --> 00:45:17,219
happens and then you know after that how

1051
00:45:23,989 --> 00:45:20,809
can you be upset about anything hey yeah

1052
00:45:26,929 --> 00:45:23,999
wow dude why why well and I can feel

1053
00:45:31,249 --> 00:45:26,939
that when you express yourself I can

1054
00:45:33,890 --> 00:45:31,259
feel your sincerity where are you coming

1055
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:33,900
from that this is really truly your

1056
00:45:42,289 --> 00:45:40,169
truth yeah I mean we see that ah Wow

1057
00:45:44,539 --> 00:45:42,299
phenomenal so what is tell us about this

1058
00:45:46,669 --> 00:45:44,549
new book you got coming up my friend so

1059
00:45:47,959 --> 00:45:46,679
I wrote this novel I saw I've written

1060
00:45:50,539 --> 00:45:47,969
these seven books and they're all I

1061
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:50,549
think really quite accessible to the

1062
00:45:53,989 --> 00:45:52,049
average reader I think you'll everybody

1063
00:45:56,509 --> 00:45:53,999
will enjoy all of them but i wanted to

1064
00:45:59,779 --> 00:45:56,519
summarize them all in a story so i wrote

1065
00:46:02,630 --> 00:45:59,789
a novel about a psychologist who takes

1066
00:46:06,259 --> 00:46:02,640
on a new client and the client is a very

1067
00:46:07,909 --> 00:46:06,269
very depressed young man and he comes in

1068
00:46:11,029 --> 00:46:07,919
reporting that he has this recurring

1069
00:46:13,549 --> 00:46:11,039
dream of Jesus coming out of a dark

1070
00:46:15,979 --> 00:46:13,559
black lake coming toward him taking his

1071
00:46:17,839 --> 00:46:15,989
hand and leading him back to the lake

1072
00:46:19,789 --> 00:46:17,849
and as soon as his feet reach the water

1073
00:46:22,249 --> 00:46:19,799
he wakes up in terror from the from the

1074
00:46:24,529 --> 00:46:22,259
nightmare but then what happens is the

1075
00:46:26,959 --> 00:46:24,539
next meeting or so would the same client

1076
00:46:28,969 --> 00:46:26,969
the client is begins to be absorbed in a

1077
00:46:30,439 --> 00:46:28,979
profound mystical experiences just like

1078
00:46:33,140 --> 00:46:30,449
we've been talking about where a

1079
00:46:35,569 --> 00:46:33,150
profound sense of presence is around him

1080
00:46:37,609 --> 00:46:35,579
he feels released from his his suffering

1081
00:46:40,029 --> 00:46:37,619
he feels full of joy the love world is

1082
00:46:42,409 --> 00:46:40,039
life the world is beautiful and that

1083
00:46:44,269 --> 00:46:42,419
consciousness begins to bother the

1084
00:46:46,219 --> 00:46:44,279
psychologist cuz he thinks what is this

1085
00:46:48,529 --> 00:46:46,229
psychosis is a schizophrenia is this

1086
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:48,539
brain damage what could be going on but

1087
00:46:54,769 --> 00:46:51,209
worse or better a psychologist old

1088
00:46:57,380 --> 00:46:54,779
concord begins to change begins notices

1089
00:46:59,449 --> 00:46:57,390
names like an agent's until that sends

1090
00:47:01,579 --> 00:46:59,459
him on this long journey to try to

1091
00:47:03,380 --> 00:47:01,589
figure out first through his colleagues

1092
00:47:05,359 --> 00:47:03,390
and anthro a Vision Quest event through

1093
00:47:07,459 --> 00:47:05,369
a number of his life adventures of a

1094
00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:07,469
pursuit so this obscene prophecies

1095
00:47:11,749 --> 00:47:09,599
trying to figure out what do I make out

1096
00:47:15,859 --> 00:47:11,759
of this and in the process he is on life

1097
00:47:18,409 --> 00:47:15,869
stretch formed so it's gone sorry report

1098
00:47:20,089 --> 00:47:18,419
I didn't I really didn't get lot of most

1099
00:47:21,979 --> 00:47:20,099
of what you were transmitting because

1100
00:47:24,380 --> 00:47:21,989
your microphone was going into like this

1101
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:24,390
digital pixelation can you give me a

1102
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:25,890
synopsis of that

1103
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:27,090
that you're coming out with again

1104
00:47:31,460 --> 00:47:29,370
shortly sir Sir a bit like this when a

1105
00:47:33,860 --> 00:47:31,470
middle-aged psychologist was working

1106
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:33,870
with a client describing bizarre

1107
00:47:38,290 --> 00:47:35,910
mystical experiences his own world

1108
00:47:40,310 --> 00:47:38,300
changes radically taking him on a

1109
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:40,320
breathtaking journey through divine

1110
00:47:48,350 --> 00:47:42,450
consciousness in the revolutionary

1111
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,360
spirituality of aging wow wow a bunch of

1112
00:47:52,670 --> 00:47:50,640
really well-known gerontologists who are

1113
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:52,680
very spiritually oriented and we're like

1114
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:55,200
president of the of the saging

1115
00:48:00,290 --> 00:47:57,210
international people have been worked

1116
00:48:02,090 --> 00:48:00,300
for AARP and so forth and they all say

1117
00:48:03,410 --> 00:48:02,100
is very they've all given me

1118
00:48:05,540 --> 00:48:03,420
endorsements and they're all saying it

1119
00:48:08,450 --> 00:48:05,550
really describes the mystical experience

1120
00:48:10,430 --> 00:48:08,460
of aging well so if you've got older

1121
00:48:12,530 --> 00:48:10,440
friends parents or yourself that are

1122
00:48:14,330 --> 00:48:12,540
interested in a great story that pulls

1123
00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:14,340
it all together that's this is coming

1124
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:16,440
out in October I was going to ask you

1125
00:48:20,510 --> 00:48:18,480
that so it's coming out in October uh I

1126
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:20,520
would be absolutely honored to read this

1127
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:22,770
book and put my name to it if it's

1128
00:48:27,410 --> 00:48:25,200
something awesome I support you I want

1129
00:48:28,730 --> 00:48:27,420
you to read it I would love to read it I

1130
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:28,740
would like to put my name on there or

1131
00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:30,720
whatever it takes for you to support you

1132
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:32,910
and your phenomenal work because my

1133
00:48:38,330 --> 00:48:35,610
dialogues twice now you have moved me

1134
00:48:41,900 --> 00:48:38,340
sir you have enlightened me and not only

1135
00:48:45,170 --> 00:48:41,910
with information I'm able to feel what

1136
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:45,180
it feels like to be you in your infinite

1137
00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:48,450
happiness in your grace that you are

1138
00:48:52,730 --> 00:48:50,190
feeling by the questions that we have

1139
00:48:55,250 --> 00:48:52,740
been ping pong in back and forth I can

1140
00:48:59,810 --> 00:48:55,260
truly feel your comfort your ease and

1141
00:49:01,700 --> 00:48:59,820
your okayness with it so you've brought

1142
00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:01,710
something really really magical in my

1143
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:05,040
life at this age preparing me for the

1144
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:07,110
greatest transition in life which is yes

1145
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:10,290
yeah and I appreciate that oh thank you

1146
00:49:14,330 --> 00:49:12,330
Keith I really I appreciate you too you

1147
00:49:19,340 --> 00:49:14,340
really are there as well so this is

1148
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:19,350
these are great conversations John we

1149
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:21,210
are coming towards slowly but surely the

1150
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:22,890
top of the hour would you give out your

1151
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:24,570
contact information where they could

1152
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:26,400
find you you work in this phenomenon you

1153
00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:29,520
book that I'm just jonesing to read okay

1154
00:49:38,690 --> 00:49:36,000
once again it's ww John Robinson or go

1155
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:38,700
RG and from there you can find all my

1156
00:49:41,870 --> 00:49:39,450
books and

1157
00:49:44,780 --> 00:49:41,880
and as well as this this last one and a

1158
00:49:48,140 --> 00:49:44,790
way to contact me John Wood is God to

1159
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:48,150
you you know God is this you know that

1160
00:49:51,860 --> 00:49:50,640
if you talk to a fee if you talk if you

1161
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:51,870
answer that question with the left

1162
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:53,760
hemisphere and you you can come up with

1163
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:56,640
very complex theologies if you asked a

1164
00:50:01,340 --> 00:49:59,280
misc mystic or someone who's the head

1165
00:50:04,220 --> 00:50:01,350
mystical experiences you get very simple

1166
00:50:08,620 --> 00:50:04,230
answers and the answers are like this

1167
00:50:12,380 --> 00:50:08,630
this is god this now here what is this

1168
00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:12,390
is it now there's nothing else there's

1169
00:50:18,830 --> 00:50:16,110
nothing else may let me know when this

1170
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:18,840
thing's gonna birth though you said

1171
00:50:21,860 --> 00:50:20,160
knocked over when it gets closer to the

1172
00:50:23,660 --> 00:50:21,870
crunch let me know I would love to get

1173
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:23,670
you back on the show okay create a push

1174
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:27,210
let's do it I would be honored we slowly

1175
00:50:31,970 --> 00:50:29,010
but surely getting to that moment John

1176
00:50:33,350 --> 00:50:31,980
of God these conversations are so fun is

1177
00:50:36,020 --> 00:50:33,360
there anything you want to dialogue with

1178
00:50:39,530 --> 00:50:36,030
me about before we sign off and I give

1179
00:50:41,150 --> 00:50:39,540
you a final thought I can't think of it

1180
00:50:43,460 --> 00:50:41,160
I mean this is just wonderful I'm enjoy

1181
00:50:45,530 --> 00:50:43,470
enjoy our time together I think we're

1182
00:50:48,290 --> 00:50:45,540
touching all the deep stuff I might just

1183
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,300
say that you know aging is is a mystical

1184
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:50,160
experience it really is a religious

1185
00:50:54,290 --> 00:50:51,690
experience and I just invite everybody

1186
00:50:56,420 --> 00:50:54,300
to not be afraid of it and to open their

1187
00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:56,430
hearts to it and and to let it show you

1188
00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:58,650
that it's not frightening to die and

1189
00:51:03,350 --> 00:51:00,240
that aging is actually one of the

1190
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:03,360
greatest gifts that we get John if you

1191
00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:05,010
ever do any traveling and you happen to

1192
00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:07,310
hit anywhere towards the mid-south um

1193
00:51:13,460 --> 00:51:10,710
I'm gonna invite myself I would love to

1194
00:51:15,770 --> 00:51:13,470
do a co presentation event with you yeah

1195
00:51:18,590 --> 00:51:15,780
that'd be fun that would be I look out

1196
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:18,600
you and I together yeah we don't make

1197
00:51:26,330 --> 00:51:21,090
some noise yeah we should talk to old

1198
00:51:27,980 --> 00:51:26,340
people yeah absolutely John I I really

1199
00:51:29,630 --> 00:51:27,990
absolutely appreciate you sir thank you

1200
00:51:31,130 --> 00:51:29,640
for being here on center of light radio

1201
00:51:34,970 --> 00:51:31,140
keep us posted what you doin and that

1202
00:51:36,890 --> 00:51:34,980
door to the other side always swings

1203
00:51:43,730 --> 00:51:36,900
open to you my friend will do my friend

1204
00:51:49,340 --> 00:51:43,740
till then be well okay my what wow what

1205
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:49,350
a ride that is was for me I really

1206
00:51:53,250 --> 00:51:52,410
enjoyed this cat uh he does something to

1207
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:53,260
me he gets

1208
00:51:58,170 --> 00:51:55,690
thinking he gets me out of my box he

1209
00:52:00,330 --> 00:51:58,180
helps me to expand it to a place that I

1210
00:52:03,570 --> 00:52:00,340
know nothing about which is really

1211
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:03,580
really cool because the newness the

1212
00:52:11,580 --> 00:52:06,330
Virgin nests of it all is always just

1213
00:52:13,860 --> 00:52:11,590
fresh exciting and invigorating I love

1214
00:52:15,930 --> 00:52:13,870
talking with this guy jhansi Robinson

1215
00:52:18,420 --> 00:52:15,940
what a what a fantastic show every

1216
00:52:20,430 --> 00:52:18,430
Monday night 6 p.m. eastern daylight

1217
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:20,440
time my name is Keith Anthony Blanche

1218
00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:22,330
and I will be sitting in this chair and

1219
00:52:25,740 --> 00:52:24,160
you will be sitting in your chairs are

1220
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:25,750
driving in your car whatever it is

1221
00:52:30,540 --> 00:52:27,610
you're doing make sure you call eight

1222
00:52:32,130 --> 00:52:30,550
eight eight nine one nine 2355 become a

1223
00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:32,140
part of this family let us hear that

1224
00:52:35,970 --> 00:52:33,790
voice it helps us to key in on your

1225
00:52:38,970 --> 00:52:35,980
personality and who you are you are

1226
00:52:41,970 --> 00:52:38,980
welcome here remember when you lay down

1227
00:52:44,690 --> 00:52:41,980
at night and you have nothing else to do

1228
00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:44,700
why not do something breathe

1229
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:47,920
passionately taste God as it moves in

1230
00:52:56,130 --> 00:52:52,210
and out of your body be grateful for

1231
00:52:59,040 --> 00:52:56,140
your life and the gift of it and so

1232
00:53:01,110 --> 00:52:59,050
doing you will realize that you are the

1233
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:01,120
real you lies just behind that breath

1234
00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:06,370
just behind that breath always remember